The Louisville Debate
Robert H. Farish, Lexington, Kentucky
Robert C. Welch met H. E. Schreiner in a Public discussion of premillennialism the nights of November 5, 6, 8 and 9, 1956. Both men live and preach in Louisville, Kentucky. I attended every session of the debate and in view of the fine quality of the debate, the good accomplished, the fine interest, and its potentially far reaching significance, I feel that a report of it should be of general interest. I shall not attempt to review arguments but will simply report the debate as I saw it and make some observations. I'll begin right here with my first observation: Current discussion of this proposition should be published, so why not the Gospel Guardian and Word and Work arrange for Welch and Schreiner to discuss the matter through their columns? In my judgment those two journals could render a signal service by presenting both sides through their respective columns. I suggest that interested brethren write the editors of these papers urging such a discussion.
The Propositions Discussed Were:
Resolved: The Scriptures teach that the kingdom of Old Testament prophecy is the church; in which Christ now reigns on David's throne: which will be given back to God at Christ's coming, the resurrection and judgment; in which is the fulfillment of the "reign" of Revelation 20, during the present dispensation. Affirmative: Welch; Negative: Schreiner.
Resolved: The Scriptures teach that when Jesus Christ comes again he will reign over a literal kingdom on the earth for one thousand years before the judgment.
Affirmative: Schreiner; Negative: Welch.
The conduct of the disputants was of the highest order. Both men bore themselves with dignity and treated one another with unaffected courtesy. They didn't spend a great deal of time protesting their love and good will; they demonstrated it by behaving like men, pressing the issue and refraining from any personal thrusts.
Robert Welch is by nature and training well equipped as a debater. His keen mind coupled with studious habits plus an unswerving determination "to do the will of God" makes him a formidable foe of error. His poise at all times was all that could be desired. Welch has the happy faculty of being able to combine an occasional humorous allusion with the more serious matters, in such a way as to make the absurdity of error stand out and yet maintain the dignity required by the occasion. At no time did he descend to coarse fun poking. He made clear arguments on the scriptures and pressed them with telling force.
H. E. Schreiner preaches for the Highview church in Louisville. This church obviously holds the views of the man who they have to preach for them. The brethren of premillennialism persuasion backed their man enthusiastically by attending in large numbers. Schreiner is a mild mannered, soft spoken man. He speaks slowly and in a rather low tone of voice. His time was largely taken up reading prophecies with an occasional comment interspersed. He did not attempt to make formal arguments, nor to answer arguments made by Welch. He was courteous and dignified throughout. His courage as manifested by his willingness to contend for what he believes is most commendable.
The Wendell Avenue congregation arranged for a large comfortable Louisville school auditorium in which the debate was held. Louisville is the most logical place for such a debate, for it is here that R. H. Boll's speculative theories got a substantial foot-hold. Here Boll lived, preached, published his paper and conducted his school — all of which activities were dedicated primarily to the promotion of premillennialism. As long as Brother Boll lived, different brethren at different times, tried without success to get him to debate his cause in Louisville. Brother Boll is dead now and there has been quite a bit of speculation as to who will be the champion of his views. Many have expressed their opinion to me that Brother Frank Mullins will assume the mantle. It is hoped that he or other representative men will be willing to contend publicly for what they believe with capable brethren on the other side. Truth has everything to gain by honorable discussion; the cause of truth doesn't have to depend on misrepresentation, abuse or "fifth column" methods.
It is altogether fitting that this debate was held in Louisville, Kentucky, which is the stronghold for premillennialism, for not only is Louisville the cradle of premillennialism but it also is one of the strongest points of resistance to all departures. Many fine congregations in Louisville "stand fast in the faith" and will continue to "contend for the faith."
The crowds were large, orderly, enthusiastic and interested. I would estimate the crowds as averaging around 700. At no time was there any demonstrations, such as hand clapping or speaking from the audience. Much credit is due the speakers and the moderators in this matter. They refrained from using rabble rousing tactics designed to arouse the prejudice of the audience. The bitterly cold weather which prevailed for most of the debate did not chill the enthusiasm of the people; they continued to come. Interest in knowing the truth of God was manifested by the large number of people who brought their Bibles and studied along with the speakers.
Yater Tant moderated for Robert Welch. His work contributed greatly to the success of the debate. He did a fine job moderating for Welch.
Robert Heid moderated for Schreiner. He, too, acted with courtesy and fairness. His work was appreciated by all who attended the debate.
Much good was done — interest in the study of the scriptures was stimulated — dangers of error were pointed out. Other debates will develop as a result of this one. All in all, it was a fine thing and we earnestly desire to see more such discussions. "Truth conquers all."