Devoted to the Propagation and Defense of New Testament Christianity
February 5, 1970
NUMBER 39, PAGE 10-13

Gospel Guardian Tell-Al- Gram

William E. Wallace — News Editor

Propositions For Debate — — — —

The following propositions for debate have been signed with Mr. T. G. McCord of Comanche, Oklahoma. Mr. McCord is the preacher for the Jesus Name Church in Comanche.

THE GODHEAD — The Scriptures teach that there are three separate and distinct persons in the Godhead - the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost.

Affirm: E. Paul Price Deny: T. G. McCord JESUS NAME — The Scriptures teach that the correct ceremony to be said over a candidate in water baptism is "In the name of Jesus."

affirm: T. G. McCord Deny: K Paul Price 1st proposition to be discussed March 2nd & 3rd, 1970 in the Southdale church of Christ building in Duncan, Oklahoma.

2nd proposition to be discussed March 5th & 6th, 1970 in Comanche, Oklahoma at a place provided by the Jesus Name Church.

Brethren Gather In Milwaukee For Study And Discussion

A group of over forty brethren gathered in Milwaukee, Wis., on Nov. 18, for the better part of the day, to hear four speeches by four different preachers and to engage in two "open forum" answer-and-question periods.

Each man came by invitation and represented no one but himself. It was repeatedly stated that this gathering was for the purpose of study — study in an open and frank manner some of those things that presently divide brethren. This meeting was an outgrowth of a private discussion that took place several months ago in Green Bay, Wis.

Monroe Hawley and Karl Diestelkamp, both of Milwaukee, each invited a number of different men from Wisconsin, Minnesota, and northern Illinois, to attend and participate. All who attended have worked extensively in Wisconsin or are closely associated with the work in the state. The meeting was scheduled to be held at a local Sweden House Restaurant but due to a mix-up in reservations was moved to the meeting house of the Southside church. At the morning session, following prayer, introductions and preliminary remarks, Leslie Diestelkamp of Rochelle, Illinois, and Ted Kell of Janesville, Wisconsin, each spoke for forty minutes on the subject of "Authority." Their task was to place special emphasis on the matter of "When is a New Testament example binding?" Following both speeches, Carl Frazier of Wausau, Wis., served as moderator of an open forum discussion with questions from the floor directed to each of the speakers. At the afternoon session, Monroe Hawley of Milwaukee and Paul Earnhart of St. Paul, Minn., each spoke for forty minutes on the subject of "Fellowship," directing their attention to the matter of "What is fellowship, and who may we fellowship? After both speeches, Karl Diestelkamp of Milwaukee, served as moderator of another open forum discussion.

Though there were very obvious differences in conviction, and though these were discussed freely and enthusiastically, there was no anger, no rancor. A friendly, congenial spirit prevailed along with a serious approach to open investigation of New Testament truth. — From "THINK" 1/1 /70.

EDGAR E. HOLCOMB. "This last Lord's Day was a happy occasion for the saints here in North Ridgeville. A male member was restored unto the Lord and our attendance at the evening service was remarkable in that there were four more present for that service than there were at the morning worship. We had 80 in the morning and 84 at night. We baptized a lady into Christ tonight. Our prayer is for continued success for the Guardian." 1015 Nebraska Ave., Lorain, Ohio 44062.

PAUL FOUTZ: "After two and one half years in Oak Lawn, Illinois I am returning to Texas. My new address will be: 6616 Sonnier Lane, Groves, Texas 77619. Effective Feb. 8th."

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MRS. JOHN A. McATEER: "I like the Guardian very much. In fact I had so much confidence in it that I sent in an order for a subscription for five years." 1766 49th St. C. P., Birmingham, Ala. 35208.

BRENT LEWIS: "I recently subscribed to the Guardian after having let my subscription lapse for almost two years. May I say that I was very pleasantly surprised at the first issues — good in content as well as appearance. You are to be complimented for the excellent upgrading in quality of the paper." P. O. Box 277 Eau Gallie, Florida. 32935.

R. L. MORRISON: "Appreciate very much some recent articles in the paper. I think we all need to be made more aware of the situation which now exists and which seems to be rapidly growing worse." 5965 St. Leonia Dr.; Columbus, Georgia 31904.

SPECIAL ON ESCHATOLOGY BEING REPRINTED: Our initial printing of the special issue of The Gospel Guardian which appeared last August is exhausted. We are in the process of reprinting this issue with additional material included. It will be ready in a couple of weeks. The Arch Street church in Little Rock, Arkansas offered these special issues over their radio program and hundreds of calls for the special has been received, by the Little Rock church.

HAZARD OF THE DIE — The biography of Tolbert Fanning. I just completed reading this book and found it to be a most interesting account of the life of Fanning. Fanning's contribution to the salvaging of a remnant from the 19th century digression is information needed by all students of the Restoration Movement. The book sells for $4.95. Order from The Gospel Guardian. (Written by James Wilburn).

MRS. B. L. WHITE: "We are glad to receive the Gospel Guardian and appreciate the stand that it is taking in this generation. I especially appreciate the editorials by Yater."

BRENT LEWIS: The church here is now publishing a new monthly paper, WITH ALL BOLDNESS. We will send this free to any one who requests it (as long as we are not overwhelmed), but are particularly interested in sending it to those readers who are in the areas of the United States where the church is weak. The paper, 8 pages, will have a section each month on Christian Evidences, First Principles, Church History and Present Day Issues, plus other assorted articles. I will be editing the paper. Church of Christ, P. O. Box 277, Eau Gallie, Florida, 32995.

BASIS OF FELLOWSHIP — — We enjoy fellowship with any brother in Christ, even though he may differ with us, so long as the fellowship does not: (1) involve us in wrong practice, (2) commit us to unscriptural doctrine, or (3) constitute an endorsement of his error. — Leslie Diestelkamp in "THINK" 1/1/70.

PREACHER NEEDED: "The Church of Christ in Cardwell, Missouri is interested in hiring a full time gospel preacher. We are located in the bootheel of Missouri near the Arkansas state line — a farming community in a small town. Population of less than 1000. We are able to support a preacher. We have a six room modern house for housing facilities. If interested contact either one of these elders: C. W. Bishop, Jr. phone (314) 654-2232, Peery Carter (314) 654-2222. After 6:00 in the afternoon." Cardwell, Missouri 63829.

PREACHER AVAILABLE: Thomas F. Shropshire, 1714 N. Gate Road, Bossier City, Louisiana 71010. Phone 748-3138. Brother Shropshire is available for another work. He is a sound man and worthy of your consideration.

Sermon Outline Jim Beech, Madisonville, Texas If Ye Had Not Plowed With My Heifer, Judges 14:14-18. Introduction

A. There is a good story concerning this riddle. Tell the story.

B. Three points are involved in this statement:

1. An important secret is to be trusted to no one.

2. Men after something often do not play fair.

3. Satan uses the weakness peculiar to each of us. TRUSTING SECRETS, Proverbs 25:9-11; Ecc. 10:20.

A. Often we are told something not to be passed on, or we learn something of this nature.

1. Things which should be kept in confidence, see Matthew 18:15.

2. Things which should never have been told.

B. This is a terrible sin!

1. Condemned, I Timothy 5:13.

2. Separates friends, Proverbs 17:9.

3. Ensnares the guilty party, Proverbs 18:7.

4. Listed with the evil things, Romans 1:29, 30.

C. The Lord takes care of our secrets, I Samuel 16:7; Psalm 44:21; Eccl. 12:14; Luke 8:16, 17.

PLAYING FAIR, Deut. 25:13-16; Luke 6:31.

A. Paying to find out something bad, Psalm 15:5, as at Jesus' trial.

B Getting ahead by pushing others down, climbing over others, Isaiah 33:15, 16; James 1:10, 11; 2:5-7. The order should be God first, everyone else second, ourselves third.

C. Walking craftily, 2 Corinthians 4:1, 2.

D. Telling partial lies, Job 27:4, 5; Proverbs 19:1. It is better to remain poor and maintain our integrity.

E. How we should live, Proverbs 3:3, 4.

FINDING OUR PARTICULAR WEAKNESS, I Corinthians 10:12, 2 Corinthians 2:11.

A. Satan doesn't waste ammunition shooting in the dark but appeals to our particular weakness. See James 1:14; "his own lust," 2 Peter 2:18-22, "his own vomit," the kind he had before. An ex-drunkard cannot touch a drop.

B. Samson's particular weakness was his wife:

1. She enticed (seduced) him, Judges 14:15. It took seven days.

2. These are getting worse, 2 Timothy 3:13.

3. Marriage is a hang-up to many:

a. We are warned, I Corinthians 7:3-5.

b. Can hurt us, I Peter 3:7. We are not told to break the marriage vows, but to fix up the one we are in.

c. We are commanded to love and God's commands are not grievous.

d. Need to put forth a special effort to make it a success, especially if married to a mate not of the church as Samson was.

C. Money is the weakness of some, I Timothy 6:9. Or the job some have to get money. They give preference to riches.

D. Simplicity is the weakness of many, 2 Corinthians 11:3. Some are always looking for the difficult. want to make everything hard. Confuse many!


A. A secret is safe with only ONE! It is never right to get ahead by pushing others down, God first, others second, ourselves third. And remember, "Let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest be fall," Satan can get YOU!

B. We must watch night and day, Nehemiah 4:9; I John 2:26; Psalm 119:101, 110.